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		<title>By: More straight talk because the holidays are coming &#124; Single Mom Seeking</title>
		<link>http://singlemomseeking.com/blog/2009/07/drinking/comment-page-1/#comment-13450</link>
		<dc:creator>More straight talk because the holidays are coming &#124; Single Mom Seeking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] couple of single parent bloggers have written like this recently about one particular subject: alcohol. Maybe these posts have struck me deeply because I&#8217;ve started to write more openly about my [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Single on Thanksgiving? &#124; Single Mom Seeking</title>
		<link>http://singlemomseeking.com/blog/2009/07/drinking/comment-page-1/#comment-13263</link>
		<dc:creator>Single on Thanksgiving? &#124; Single Mom Seeking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was drinking more &#8211; and we weren&#8217;t sleeping together. Just before Thanksgiving, he&#8217;d told me he [...]</description>
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		<title>By: My triggers &#124; Single Mom Seeking</title>
		<link>http://singlemomseeking.com/blog/2009/07/drinking/comment-page-1/#comment-13172</link>
		<dc:creator>My triggers &#124; Single Mom Seeking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ex was also an alcoholic, too. I&#8217;ve struggled with co-dependency &#8212; and events from my current relationship [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Martini Mom</title>
		<link>http://singlemomseeking.com/blog/2009/07/drinking/comment-page-1/#comment-11957</link>
		<dc:creator>Martini Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up with an alcoholic father, and it was always talked about. No secrets in our family. My parents were divorced, but my dad was still very present and active in my upbringing. He was, in fact, quite an amazing father, so maybe that made it easier to talk about. There was no need to explain his absence or inadequacies. 

Instead, we had very open conversations about his addictions; about how they affected him and his personality; about his responsibility for his actions (the choices Dr. Leah talks about); and, often, about his struggles to quit. 

I watched him *fight* his addictions, which is a different scenario than the one you&#039;ve raised - so maybe what I&#039;m about to say doesn&#039;t apply. But for me, the open communication meant that I was able to better understand what was happening and why it was so difficult (in the end, impossible) for my dad to quit. Watching him try and fail and try and fail and try and fail and try again, even though he knew the chances of just failing again? *This* is where I learned everything I needed to know about tenacity, personal responsibility and, certainly, owning your mistakes. If there hadn&#039;t been such open communication, I&#039;m not sure I would&#039;ve walked away with the same lessons.

My son is named after my dad. They never met (my dad died while I was pregnant with my son) and so, naturally, my son is very curious about the man he was named for. He&#039;s asked a lot of questions over the years, and I&#039;ve answered them honestly. It&#039;s a big conversation, so he&#039;s come to grasp it better as he&#039;s gotten older.

Our conversations tend to center on choices, as Dr. Leah suggested. We talk about responsible drinking vs. abuse. And we talk about the dangers of drinking too much; things that can happen if you drink irresponsibly and/or habitually. 

A complicating factor for us is my ex-husband, who takes a very casual approach to alcohol around my son. (He recently took my son to a kegger-style party and taught him how to play beer pong, albeit with orange juice. And this is only the most recent example). So the education on my part has been kicked up a notch. I feel like I must give him a better context in which to make sense of the &quot;lessons&quot; he&#039;s learning from his dad.

And I do want him to know about the family history and explain to him why that might matter to him personally. However, I&#039;ve found this to be a tricky angle, because I don&#039;t want our conversation to sound like I&#039;m condemning him to the life of an alcoholic. Luckily, I can point to both my brother and I as examples - children of an alcoholic who did not become alcoholics themselves. Still, I think family history is something to be aware of.

So, for all these reasons, we talk. Openly and honestly. I don&#039;t know any other way to be. Check back with me in 20 yrs, and I&#039;ll let you know if it worked! ;)

(Sorry to have rambled on. I guess I have a lot to say on this topic!)

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;em&gt;Martini Mom&#180;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&quot;http://kbhotmama.blogspot.com/2009/07/my-kids-in-love-with-older-man.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;My kid&#039;s in love with an older man&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up with an alcoholic father, and it was always talked about. No secrets in our family. My parents were divorced, but my dad was still very present and active in my upbringing. He was, in fact, quite an amazing father, so maybe that made it easier to talk about. There was no need to explain his absence or inadequacies. </p>
<p>Instead, we had very open conversations about his addictions; about how they affected him and his personality; about his responsibility for his actions (the choices Dr. Leah talks about); and, often, about his struggles to quit. </p>
<p>I watched him *fight* his addictions, which is a different scenario than the one you&#8217;ve raised &#8211; so maybe what I&#8217;m about to say doesn&#8217;t apply. But for me, the open communication meant that I was able to better understand what was happening and why it was so difficult (in the end, impossible) for my dad to quit. Watching him try and fail and try and fail and try and fail and try again, even though he knew the chances of just failing again? *This* is where I learned everything I needed to know about tenacity, personal responsibility and, certainly, owning your mistakes. If there hadn&#8217;t been such open communication, I&#8217;m not sure I would&#8217;ve walked away with the same lessons.</p>
<p>My son is named after my dad. They never met (my dad died while I was pregnant with my son) and so, naturally, my son is very curious about the man he was named for. He&#8217;s asked a lot of questions over the years, and I&#8217;ve answered them honestly. It&#8217;s a big conversation, so he&#8217;s come to grasp it better as he&#8217;s gotten older.</p>
<p>Our conversations tend to center on choices, as Dr. Leah suggested. We talk about responsible drinking vs. abuse. And we talk about the dangers of drinking too much; things that can happen if you drink irresponsibly and/or habitually. </p>
<p>A complicating factor for us is my ex-husband, who takes a very casual approach to alcohol around my son. (He recently took my son to a kegger-style party and taught him how to play beer pong, albeit with orange juice. And this is only the most recent example). So the education on my part has been kicked up a notch. I feel like I must give him a better context in which to make sense of the &#8220;lessons&#8221; he&#8217;s learning from his dad.</p>
<p>And I do want him to know about the family history and explain to him why that might matter to him personally. However, I&#8217;ve found this to be a tricky angle, because I don&#8217;t want our conversation to sound like I&#8217;m condemning him to the life of an alcoholic. Luckily, I can point to both my brother and I as examples &#8211; children of an alcoholic who did not become alcoholics themselves. Still, I think family history is something to be aware of.</p>
<p>So, for all these reasons, we talk. Openly and honestly. I don&#8217;t know any other way to be. Check back with me in 20 yrs, and I&#8217;ll let you know if it worked! <img src='http://singlemomseeking.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(Sorry to have rambled on. I guess I have a lot to say on this topic!)</p>
<p><abbr><em></em><em>Martini Mom&#180;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://kbhotmama.blogspot.com/2009/07/my-kids-in-love-with-older-man.html" rel="nofollow">My kid&#8217;s in love with an older man</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Brittni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brittni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so glad I found this post because it is something that I think about often as well. I just found your blog today, and I&#039;m glad I did. My daughter&#039;s real dad was an addict. More than just alcohol. The day after my daughter was born, he took my car, phone, and debit card and disappeared to get what he needed. It wasn&#039;t until 3 in the morning when a cop came into my hospital room that I realized what had happened. I know that I have to tell my daughter someday in the not so near future. But how? It makes me so sad to think how she will feel upon hearing about how he really was/is. I was an enabler as well. Still am to an extint. I can&#039;t shake the feeling that I can help people. I just think that maybe with some good in their life the bad will just disappear. It is such a hard realization that it doesn&#039;t work like that.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;em&gt;Brittni&#180;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&quot;http://avasohiomama.blogspot.com/2009/07/fun-in-sun.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fun in the Sun&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad I found this post because it is something that I think about often as well. I just found your blog today, and I&#8217;m glad I did. My daughter&#8217;s real dad was an addict. More than just alcohol. The day after my daughter was born, he took my car, phone, and debit card and disappeared to get what he needed. It wasn&#8217;t until 3 in the morning when a cop came into my hospital room that I realized what had happened. I know that I have to tell my daughter someday in the not so near future. But how? It makes me so sad to think how she will feel upon hearing about how he really was/is. I was an enabler as well. Still am to an extint. I can&#8217;t shake the feeling that I can help people. I just think that maybe with some good in their life the bad will just disappear. It is such a hard realization that it doesn&#8217;t work like that.</p>
<p><abbr><em></em><em>Brittni&#180;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://avasohiomama.blogspot.com/2009/07/fun-in-sun.html" rel="nofollow">Fun in the Sun</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://singlemomseeking.com/blog/2009/07/drinking/comment-page-1/#comment-11928</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the best things I learned this past year was that my ex deserved the respect and dignity to make his own choices and experience the consequences.

But it is a tough thing to grasp when you start thinking of addiction in terms of a disease.  I liken it to any terminal illness.  Some cancer patients - for whatever reason - refuse treatment or chemo - some fight the cancer with everything they have.  I hope I can explain to  her that her dad didn&#039;t choose to be an addict - but he chooses to let those addictions win.  And he makes the choices that give the addiction all of the power in his life.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;em&gt;Amy&#180;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&quot;http://shewasjustawish.blogspot.com/2009/07/journal-129-july-2009-meet-sadie.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Journal 129: July 2009 Meet Sadie&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the best things I learned this past year was that my ex deserved the respect and dignity to make his own choices and experience the consequences.</p>
<p>But it is a tough thing to grasp when you start thinking of addiction in terms of a disease.  I liken it to any terminal illness.  Some cancer patients &#8211; for whatever reason &#8211; refuse treatment or chemo &#8211; some fight the cancer with everything they have.  I hope I can explain to  her that her dad didn&#8217;t choose to be an addict &#8211; but he chooses to let those addictions win.  And he makes the choices that give the addiction all of the power in his life.</p>
<p><abbr><em></em><em>Amy&#180;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://shewasjustawish.blogspot.com/2009/07/journal-129-july-2009-meet-sadie.html" rel="nofollow">Journal 129: July 2009 Meet Sadie</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: singlemomseeking</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much Dr. Leah. This is very helpful. 

I appreciate this reminder: Addicts DO make choices. 

And my daughter does deserve to know the truth: That her father was not able to do the important job or being a parent. Fortunately, she has grown up in a very healthy, loving, communicative home. 

I&#039;m loving all of your open, honest comments. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much Dr. Leah. This is very helpful. </p>
<p>I appreciate this reminder: Addicts DO make choices. </p>
<p>And my daughter does deserve to know the truth: That her father was not able to do the important job or being a parent. Fortunately, she has grown up in a very healthy, loving, communicative home. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m loving all of your open, honest comments. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr.Leah</title>
		<link>http://singlemomseeking.com/blog/2009/07/drinking/comment-page-1/#comment-11924</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr.Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rachel has opened up an important conversation. 

&lt;strong&gt;There is no magic age at which kids need to &quot;know&quot; about addiction&lt;/strong&gt;. Likely, kids are already familiar with the term from lessons at school about smoking and drug use. 

But, since experts differ on exactly what the terms &quot;addiction&quot;/&quot;addictive personality&quot;/&quot;addiction prone&quot; actually mean, it&#039;s best to stick with information that helps your kids better understand what has happened in their own lives. 

What makes this conversation so difficult for many of you is that  &quot;addiction&quot; is part of the infinitely bigger issue of why the other parent (in this case, M&#039;s father) is not a part of their lives. 
&lt;strong&gt;
Here&#039;s where it gets tricky:&lt;/strong&gt;

Experts debate endlessly the role of choice in addiction. Do addicts have control over their drinking and drugging or is the physiological basis of their addiction so compelling that they are powerless to resist the urge? 

Secondly, the issue of whether alcoholism &quot;runs in families&quot; is clouded by how familiar kids who grow up in alcoholic/drug abusing families become with drinking/drugs and the accompanying lack of supervision.
Is it genetics or environment?

No one has the definitive answers to these questions. 

My opinion? &lt;strong&gt;Addicts make choices.&lt;/strong&gt;  It&#039;s incredibly challenging to stay clean and sober. Most &quot;addicts&quot; are simply not interested in doing the hard work and commitment sobriety requires.  

My advice to Rachel? &lt;strong&gt;Make sure that M knows that her father&#039;s choices in no way &quot;doom her&quot; to a greater susceptibility to substance abuse.&lt;/strong&gt; 

I believe kids get the wrong message when they&#039;re told that they&#039;re &quot;at risk&quot; for drug or alcohol abuse due to family history. Kids hearing that message often conclude &quot;What the heck - might as well do it&quot; if they come to believe that they will eventually succumb to substance abuse. 

Kids are best helped by the message repeated early and often that their &quot;other parent&quot; has chosen not to be part of their lives because he or she was simply not able to do the important job or being a parent. Drug/alcohol abuse is simply one indication that parenting is just not in the &quot;other parent&#039;s&quot; skill set.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;em&gt;Dr.Leah www.singlemommyhood.com&#180;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.singlemommyhood.com/2009/07/does-your-child-use-public-restrooms-alone/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Does your child use public restrooms alone?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel has opened up an important conversation. </p>
<p><strong>There is no magic age at which kids need to &#8220;know&#8221; about addiction</strong>. Likely, kids are already familiar with the term from lessons at school about smoking and drug use. </p>
<p>But, since experts differ on exactly what the terms &#8220;addiction&#8221;/&#8221;addictive personality&#8221;/&#8221;addiction prone&#8221; actually mean, it&#8217;s best to stick with information that helps your kids better understand what has happened in their own lives. </p>
<p>What makes this conversation so difficult for many of you is that  &#8220;addiction&#8221; is part of the infinitely bigger issue of why the other parent (in this case, M&#8217;s father) is not a part of their lives.<br />
<strong><br />
Here&#8217;s where it gets tricky:</strong></p>
<p>Experts debate endlessly the role of choice in addiction. Do addicts have control over their drinking and drugging or is the physiological basis of their addiction so compelling that they are powerless to resist the urge? </p>
<p>Secondly, the issue of whether alcoholism &#8220;runs in families&#8221; is clouded by how familiar kids who grow up in alcoholic/drug abusing families become with drinking/drugs and the accompanying lack of supervision.<br />
Is it genetics or environment?</p>
<p>No one has the definitive answers to these questions. </p>
<p>My opinion? <strong>Addicts make choices.</strong>  It&#8217;s incredibly challenging to stay clean and sober. Most &#8220;addicts&#8221; are simply not interested in doing the hard work and commitment sobriety requires.  </p>
<p>My advice to Rachel? <strong>Make sure that M knows that her father&#8217;s choices in no way &#8220;doom her&#8221; to a greater susceptibility to substance abuse.</strong> </p>
<p>I believe kids get the wrong message when they&#8217;re told that they&#8217;re &#8220;at risk&#8221; for drug or alcohol abuse due to family history. Kids hearing that message often conclude &#8220;What the heck &#8211; might as well do it&#8221; if they come to believe that they will eventually succumb to substance abuse. </p>
<p>Kids are best helped by the message repeated early and often that their &#8220;other parent&#8221; has chosen not to be part of their lives because he or she was simply not able to do the important job or being a parent. Drug/alcohol abuse is simply one indication that parenting is just not in the &#8220;other parent&#8217;s&#8221; skill set.</p>
<p><abbr><em></em><em>Dr.Leah <a href="http://www.singlemommyhood.com&#180;s" rel="nofollow">http://www.singlemommyhood.com&#180;s</a> last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://www.singlemommyhood.com/2009/07/does-your-child-use-public-restrooms-alone/" rel="nofollow">Does your child use public restrooms alone?</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: singlemomseeking</title>
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		<dc:creator>singlemomseeking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tracy, it means a lot to me that you came out and commented. Thank you. 

Re: &quot;I’m also curious about this idea that there is a “time to talk” or an age when our kids “need to know” about addiction. How do you know when that is?&quot;.... I&#039;m hoping that perhaps an expert might chime in about this one. I&#039;ll put the word out. 

Thank you for this, too: &quot;It&#039;s my belief that lies are usually even harder to understand than the truth.&quot;

Approve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tracy, it means a lot to me that you came out and commented. Thank you. </p>
<p>Re: &#8220;I’m also curious about this idea that there is a “time to talk” or an age when our kids “need to know” about addiction. How do you know when that is?&#8221;&#8230;. I&#8217;m hoping that perhaps an expert might chime in about this one. I&#8217;ll put the word out. </p>
<p>Thank you for this, too: &#8220;It&#8217;s my belief that lies are usually even harder to understand than the truth.&#8221;</p>
<p>Approve</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine SOLOdotmom</title>
		<link>http://singlemomseeking.com/blog/2009/07/drinking/comment-page-1/#comment-11921</link>
		<dc:creator>Katherine SOLOdotmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Expatsinglemama is my pick here as well with opening that door of communication.  I didn&#039;t live in a home with an alcoholic, but my X did and I know it continues to affect his own behavior today.  Children should have this door open so when they question things, hear things, wonder things, they will come right back to you - because you will have the answer and the clarity they need to make some sense out life and the messes we each make in it.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;em&gt;Katherine SOLOdotmom&#180;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SoloDotMom/~3/MUXXwllpP4I/so-much-to-share-and-so-little-time.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;So Much To Share and So Little Time + a CONTEST&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expatsinglemama is my pick here as well with opening that door of communication.  I didn&#8217;t live in a home with an alcoholic, but my X did and I know it continues to affect his own behavior today.  Children should have this door open so when they question things, hear things, wonder things, they will come right back to you &#8211; because you will have the answer and the clarity they need to make some sense out life and the messes we each make in it.</p>
<p><abbr><em></em><em>Katherine SOLOdotmom&#180;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SoloDotMom/~3/MUXXwllpP4I/so-much-to-share-and-so-little-time.html" rel="nofollow">So Much To Share and So Little Time + a CONTEST</a></em></abbr></p>
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